tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post4430597279929529008..comments2023-12-07T10:19:05.818-05:00Comments on The Ignorant Fishermen Blog: The Two Witnesses of Revelation; The 1260 Day Divine Supernatural Firewall before the 666 Great Reset Global State!The Ignorant Fishermenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05673973129940277983noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-78299607337990544492017-09-18T11:55:09.460-04:002017-09-18T11:55:09.460-04:00The hebrew word is Hephek ; Contrary. If anyone sh...The hebrew word is Hephek ; Contrary. If anyone should harm them in this manner he shall be killed. The bible tells us in Gods word that the soul who sineth shall die. Ezekiel 18:20 this is from Mt. Sinai. From the law of Moshe given by God. But now, all you who light fires and provide yourselves with flaming torches, go, walk in the light of your fires and of the torches you have set ablaze. This is what you shall receive from my hand: You will lie down in torment. Isaiah 50:11 Now reverse the curse to Mt. Tzion which is the new testament, the curse would be to lie down in torment , the two witnesses will lie down in peace. The Mishne Torah talks about soot from a kindled flame , psalms 104:4 He makes winds his messengers , his servants a flame of fire. Psalms 104:4 Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun. Psalms 19:4 . Gods word is hotter than the sun , his word is so hot that he gives the sun a rest. quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-19073211387652792752017-09-18T10:27:05.520-04:002017-09-18T10:27:05.520-04:00hese two prophets are the two olive trees and the ...hese two prophets are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of all the earth. 5If anyone tries to harm them, fire flashes from their mouths and consumes their enemies. This is how anyone who tries to harm them must die. Rev 11: 1-4.<br /><br />This is the NLT all glory to God . quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-15772349402131409562017-09-17T21:02:56.614-04:002017-09-17T21:02:56.614-04:00I believe that Gids two witnesses are two witnesse...I believe that Gids two witnesses are two witnesses that git wronged in this worls because they are not of this world , God said tonthe evil men dont touch my children. And they get to be qhonGod the creators of the heavens and the earth made them to be. Gen. 1:1. God formed there flesh from the dust but with Christ death and there salvation he said Im going to put my two right here in the heavens , this is where they come from. The word comes from Gods throne , they have a saphire throne though , this is Christ throne as well, this is 1 of the 12 thrones . Mathew 19:28 . Jesus's throne is the greatest. He embeded Mt. Tzion in there hearts. Psalms 125:1<br />quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-33988044836553878282017-09-17T19:50:01.428-04:002017-09-17T19:50:01.428-04:00I dont think Gods two witnesses can touch any kind...I dont think Gods two witnesses can touch any kind of firearm. quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-88442095845799485322017-09-17T18:07:17.642-04:002017-09-17T18:07:17.642-04:00Angels with guns No. Too worldly because God destr...Angels with guns No. Too worldly because God destroyed sodom and Gammorah with fire and brimstone , to put guns into would undermine his authority especially at such a time and is blasphemous even I think. quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-19875841509461069112017-09-17T17:54:52.616-04:002017-09-17T17:54:52.616-04:00Guns dont really sit well with me on the subject s...Guns dont really sit well with me on the subject so I would say thats not enough faith. The bible says that thou shall not kill and anyone who lives by the sword must die by it. Exodus 20:13 Mathew 26:52. Guns seem too rot. Pro erbs 25:11quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-69437653147934429812017-09-17T17:43:00.826-04:002017-09-17T17:43:00.826-04:00But then again you have to think how do they get o...But then again you have to think how do they get overtaken if they have backup? That would mean when the beast makes war on them he disarms there firepower?<br />Secondly the rapture takes place first they get left behind and killed? <br />Id say the beast disarms the military somehow thats how he gets into the third temple. quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-31950323235414189922017-09-17T17:30:45.599-04:002017-09-17T17:30:45.599-04:00Now lets go to Rev. 11:5 the end of the verse.
If...Now lets go to Rev. 11:5 the end of the verse.<br /><br />If anyone should try to harm them, in this manner he will be killed. <br /><br />It says "In this manner ". Are they talking about the manner of fire? Or during this manner as in if anyone should harm them in this fashion? Go to the Hebrew word Demuth. Means concretley, model , shape, adverbally , like . Another definition . Hebrew word Dibrah feminine, Cause, meaning , MANNER. It would be like a killer stalking you for witnessing. <br /><br />I would in the third temple everyones accepted no matyer what you do as long as you make an offering for sin Im noting to the liberalness of Israel at the time , and Israel not straying to familiar spirits and witches and psychics and warlords , Id say the two have time to minister Gods word in truth and spirit with bodyguards by the militaty. Jesus had Peter who cut a guards ear off. With the increasing tensions in the world that flame comes out high resolute. quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-18978331997754026602017-09-17T13:19:30.718-04:002017-09-17T13:19:30.718-04:00Its within them and around them , so the external ...Its within them and around them , so the external world is also within them and when its corrupted it tries to corrupt them within so they call fire out onto whats within. Luke 17:20-21 . The eye gate before it klimgs to them psalms 101:3quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-59367113487706709462017-09-17T13:16:48.010-04:002017-09-17T13:16:48.010-04:00And it actually is fire from heaven , remember the...And it actually is fire from heaven , remember the kingdom of heaven is within. Luke 17:20-21quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-87347705714170147072017-09-17T13:01:29.005-04:002017-09-17T13:01:29.005-04:00Excuse me I could be wrong I am not a phycisit, no...Excuse me I could be wrong I am not a phycisit, nor do I think that physics can explain the totality of Gods Kingdom or compare at all. It could actually come out red at times , while I do think that physics help is to understand some things and I dont think that it is wrong to talk about at times Gods word is omnipotent and he created everything by the word of his mouth so there is no challenger. quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-50496094645309097492017-09-17T12:48:49.978-04:002017-09-17T12:48:49.978-04:00temperature. However, the blue flame found in soot...temperature. However, the blue flame found in soot-free flames result from electrons jumping among energy states in either oxygen or carbon dioxide. <br /><br />The fire from the two witnesses are <br />blue flames. They are not movie stars. quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-2804527609890594272017-09-15T20:55:26.135-04:002017-09-15T20:55:26.135-04:00The two witnesses do not do good in the west , the...The two witnesses do not do good in the west , they beling in Israel, Its the closest to home which is heaven. Fire proceedes out of there mouth that is blue flame, from heaven . It destroys impurity if anyone fights against it theyll die. Thats what it took to get them pure and they use the same flame on there enemy's to reveal them as that. The two witnesses are also nuts , the world would make them completley insane , they don't fit in in the world . quintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748845304289706588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-56582388116684372362016-05-25T10:24:09.335-04:002016-05-25T10:24:09.335-04:00Thanks my friend, I totally disagree with your pos...Thanks my friend, I totally disagree with your position but these are the things will reveal to us at His coming.<br /><br />As I have shared I do believe them to be Moses and Elijah <br /><br />Thanks for your reply!<br /><br />David The Ignorant Fishermenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05673973129940277983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-48899282612329673352016-05-24T17:51:37.292-04:002016-05-24T17:51:37.292-04:00Hi, and blessings to you..
About The Two Witnesse...Hi, and blessings to you..<br /><br />About The Two Witnesses<br /><br />And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. (Rev. 11:3-6 KJV)<br /><br />I believe there is no need to look any further and add to the scripture when the scripture confirms that the two witnesses "are the two annointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth" as confirmed by God's prophet Zechariah 4:1-3,11-14 KJV<br /><br />And the angel that talked with me [Zechariah] came again, and waked me, as a man that is wakened out of his sleep, And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof: And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof. . . . Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?<br /><br />And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. (Zech. 4:1-3, 11-14 KJV)<br /><br />Any reputable concordance can be used to discern what the candlestick of gold pipes to the seven lamps.... and the two olive branches.... represent, which are not Elijah & Moses. I would publish it here, but the literature goes indepth in its explanation.organicnaturalshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09952270097702847202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-16675981510869417102015-09-21T12:32:21.044-04:002015-09-21T12:32:21.044-04:00Gary, thanks for your thoughts for there are many ...Gary, thanks for your thoughts for there are many from people on this topic. will consider all.<br /><br />DavidThe Ignorant Fishermenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05673973129940277983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-73252160511635065982015-09-21T11:46:28.245-04:002015-09-21T11:46:28.245-04:00I believe you are correct in your statement of the...I believe you are correct in your statement of the two witnesses being place in the first half of the seven year tribulation. However, consider that these two men have been given supernatural power and defensive capabilities by God during their time of preaching in the heart of Jerusalem. And it is God who calls them back to life after they have been slain and their dead bodies have lain in the streets of Jerusalem for three days. Why would they need to be given supernatural defense against anyone who would seek to harm them if they are attempting to promote the reestablishment of the temple including the daily sacrifice? <br /><br />Perhaps the reason they have been placed there in the heart of Jerusalem while the Jewish people are indeed attempting to rebuild the temple is to offer God's truth about Jesus being the ultimate sacrifice and there being no need to attempt to re-institute this past Jewish rite. If these two witnesses were in favor of rebuilding the temple, would they be promoting a blasphemous act that is contrary to the purpose and will of the Father in heaven for both the Jew and the Gentile alike? <br /><br />Could it be that the reason the whole world, including the Jews in all Israel, would celebrate the death of these two witnesses is because of their promoting Jesus as the only true sacrifice and that the body of Christ, i.e., all who truly believe in Jesus as the true Messiah are the true temple of God. These two witnesses would then be preaching this truth to the Jews in the very heart of Jerusalem, while the Jews are clearly rejecting the sacrifice of Jesus by the very act of attempting to rebuild that previously destroyed temple.<br /><br />Regarding the temple, Jesus did what He said He would do in John 2:18-22 (NASB):<br /><br /> The Jews then said to Him, “What sign do You show us as your authority for doing these things?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” But He was speaking of the temple of His body. So when He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken. <br /> <br />And with regard to what is the true temple, we have the words of Paul in 1 Corinthians 3:9-17 (NASB) :<br /><br />For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building..... Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.<br /><br />And finally we have the "rapture" of these two witnesses being caught up into heaven on the third day after they were slain. This is done in the midst of the whole world celebrating their death and indeed the world will be astounded to see this miracle of God confirming the very message of these two witnesses that Jesus is the true Messiah and that the rebuilding of another temple by the Jews is futile.<br /><br />Just offering some thoughts to consider.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Gary<br />Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-31585664711649290282015-09-18T11:20:19.425-04:002015-09-18T11:20:19.425-04:00the two witnesses started witnessing about Christ ...the two witnesses started witnessing about Christ long before his birth and continue to this very day for they read year in and year out. Jesus in his parable about the rich man and Lazarus tells us exactly who these two witnesses were. in fact he even told Clopas and his traveling companion how these two witnesses were always pointing to him when Luke tells us that he began with the law and the prophets to tells them what was written about him. Abraham told the rich man in torment that his brothers had the law and the prophets and they should listen to them, but if they did not even a man rising from the dead would not convince them. John in his gospel tells us that the scribes and pharisees wanted to even put Lazarus to death for the people were started following <br />Christ on the fact that Lazarus died and was living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-63917672565905213242015-09-17T16:13:29.326-04:002015-09-17T16:13:29.326-04:00GOD isn't going to just kill ENOCH. No GOD is...GOD isn't going to just kill ENOCH. No GOD is sending back ENOCH and ELIJAH. Moses is already dead. You people of so called Christians really need to understand your BIBLES better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-89580251633119247822015-08-18T20:22:19.327-04:002015-08-18T20:22:19.327-04:00Barry, Thanks for your replies! Sorry for my late ...Barry, Thanks for your replies! Sorry for my late response.<br /><br />Through Moses was the Leviticus priesthood and system established (Ex. 40). He was God's vessel.<br /><br />This is tricky but not hard to see when we let the Holy Scriptures set the stage. The temple, offerings, priesthood etc... will be in practice before the beast desecrates the most holy place (Dan. 9:27. Matt. 24:15, Rev. 11:1-2, 2 Thess. 2:3-12). Also the tribulation is all about the Jew and God dealing with them as a people and a nation. It is a call to repentance to the nation (dresses in sackcloth) by the Two Witnesses and the offerings etc... will all point to Messiah's Person and work (Isa. 53, Psalm 110:1, Zech. 3-4). That is why Satan and the anti Christ will go after it to make it desolate (Dan. 9:27, 12:11, Matt 24:15, 2 Thess. 2:3-12).<br /><br />This position has many new takers and not too many.... If you disagree with it that is fine but the key to seeing this time is through the eyes of the Jew and the Two Witnesses who's ministry dominates the first half of the seven year trib period. Moses and Elijah are the Two Witnesses as we have pointed out on this post. God has protected their identity until these last days... by connecting the dots we can clearly see it is none other.<br /><br />After the rapture, the 144,000 and a remnant will come to the Messiah by these Two and after their murder and accession they will spread the Glorious Gospel of the risen Messiah throughout the entire world until Messiah returns(Matt 24:14, Rev. 7, 14:1-5)!<br /><br /><br />Thanks Barry!<br /><br />Eph. 3:20-21!<br /><br />David<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />The Ignorant Fishermenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05673973129940277983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-28511094485452211632015-08-15T22:01:25.336-04:002015-08-15T22:01:25.336-04:00David, I don't believe the Two Witnesses will ...David, I don't believe the Two Witnesses will have anything to do with the Temple at all, thus the absents of scripture on the subject. Why would they condone such practice knowing that Temple worship is wrong at this time due to the fact that the Jews don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah.<br /><br />BarryBarry Sealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-30653124204672987062015-08-14T12:36:45.457-04:002015-08-14T12:36:45.457-04:00David, It was Aaron and his sons that started the ...David, It was Aaron and his sons that started the Levitical priesthood (Exodus 28:1-3),not Moses.<br />BarryBarrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-31138936490845758732015-08-14T11:12:39.398-04:002015-08-14T11:12:39.398-04:00Barry, thanks for you reply!
Who did God you to s...Barry, thanks for you reply!<br /><br />Who did God you to start the Leviticus order and who did Almighty God use to give the law and ordnances? And was not he a prophet? <br /><br />David<br /><br /><br />The Ignorant Fishermenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05673973129940277983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-56269208195813527222015-08-13T13:25:06.055-04:002015-08-13T13:25:06.055-04:00Greetings, I Thought priests instituted Temple wor...Greetings, I Thought priests instituted Temple worship not prophets? Barry Barry Sealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-734817143510679440.post-20324201555260025572015-08-08T12:22:49.621-04:002015-08-08T12:22:49.621-04:00"It is very clear to me that it is Elijah and..."It is very clear to me that it is Elijah and Moses." <br /><br />What about Elijah's other God-assigned task? He will be coming to the Jews to reunite the families.<br /><br /> Mal 4:5-6<br /> <br />"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse."<br /><br />This is why the Jews leave an empty chair for him at the seder table. The Jews will know who he is. The great and dreadful day of the Lord IS the tribulation, so I think Elijah is going to be unavailable to be one of the two witnesses.<br /><br />It is more feasible to think that God is going to chose two unknown Jews to be His candlesticks. They will not be recognized but indeed will be one of the three instruments that God uses to bring His people to recognize the Jesus is the Messiah. The other two instruments are the 144,000 witnesses and the angel in Revelation that is giving the final call.<br /><br />Good to chat with you. At some point, we will know! Right now, we can only try to interpret what God has said. He has His reasons for keeping some things unknown. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com