Tuesday, September 17, 2013

What Is More Deadly, Guns or Secular Liberalism

Well here we go again… All those on the Left have been chomping at the bit to use the horrific Newtown mass murders of last year to go after our second amendment rights. No doubt these will continue their push as they seek to now exploit the D.C naval yard mass murders for their own lawless agenda. In the lawless reprobate mind it is the “evil” gun that kills people not the psychopaths who use them. The idiotic rational behind the “gun-less” utopian vision is that if we rid the world of all our guns and conservatives who carry guns we will then enter into a world peace and all hold hands as we sing “ I’d Like to Buy the World a Coke”. I know this illustration sounds quite silly but this is what these godless moral relativists truly believe. I should know, I talked with a couple of them today and was stupefied at the reasoning. My dear friends, there is absolutely no talking to the individual that has given themselves over unto liberalism and a reprobate mind, especially those who adhere to moral relativism (Rom. 1:18-31, Jude 1:10).

Secular moral relativistic liberalism is a far more deadly then any gun out there in America society today.

These are void of moral absolutes, brain washed with political correctness and dominated by unbounded emotional passions which is based on a hatred of absolutes. As I concluded my conversation I was inwardly sadly laughing at the stupidity and lack of God given common sense that these two individuals adhered to. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks; secular moral relativistic liberalism is a far more deadly then any gun out there in America society today. As I started to ponder on this truth it revealed itself to me as the height of hypocrisy for any liberal to damn guns and responsible gun owners; for the liberal godless mind who pedals moral relativism and political correctness upon a healthy society is a far more destroying force filled with destruction, death, violence and social devastation and all who receive its teaching as a society are under its oppressive jack boot.

A gun is an amoral object. It can neither be good or evil. It can be used for good or evil based on whom ever is using it. To place a ban on all guns will not rid the world of the mind which has sold its self over to lawlessness, violence and anarchy (Rom. 1:18-31, 3, Gal. 5:19-21). If guns are removed these raging demoniac will find something to strike out and to destroy with. Before the gun was the spear and sword and before the spear and sword was a rock and a fist. People have found countless ways to act out their aggression and if all guns were taken away they would find something else to use. That is simple enough.

The reprobate mind is filled with violence, moral relativism and lawlessness designs and its actions have ravished this nation beyond all recognition of what the founding fathers envisioned.

Let us first look at the barbaric act of abortion. Since 1973 there has been 55 million abortions of our American children. May I say that NO gun has ever achieved that statistic not even all the combined arsenal of WW2! The abortion agenda of the Left is the holy grail of their godless ideology. The abortion ideology is a narcissistic ideology, which at its core is rooted in pure death. Of all issues that liberalism promotes and seeks acceptance for none is more championed and protected by these barbarians then abortion. Oh the hypocrisy of the Left!

We as a nation have received the Left’s critical theory as absolute today and our family unit, men, women, children and every aspect of our society in the name of “liberation” and personal freedom have reaped the whirlwind upon our culture and society.

Another deviant practice of the liberal mind is that of sexual deviance. The lawless liberal mind seeks to legitimize and promote all unnatural acts of sexual perversion which has reaped absolute devastation on our American culture and society. Sodomy, pedophilia, adultery, pornography, nudity, immodest dress, deviant sexual promiscuity etc. have all been legitimized and pushed on our Judeo/Christian culture by our 24/7 media, Hollywood, the music industry and Internet. We as a nation today have been dumbed down and placed under a demonic hypnotic stupor. We as a nation have received the Left’s critical theory as absolute today and our family unit, men, women, children and every aspect of our society in the name of “liberation” and personal freedom have reaped the whirlwind upon our culture and society (Isa. 5:20, Rom. 1:18-32, 1 Cor. 1:18-31).

Aids, sexually transmitted diseases, abortion, death, many faceted philological problems, violence, oppression, tyranny, slavery, addiction, damnable dependency etc… etc… have all come to be and now have their jack boot on the neck of our nation all because of the reprobate mind which has now become legal (Isa. 5:20).

My friends it is not too hard to see for those who adhere to light and right (John 3:19-21, 8:32, 36), but our day has become so dark, so deviant, so lawless and yes relativistic that the average Joe or Sally is totally oblivious to Divine REALITY and moral absolutes. Today absolutes are so twisted out of proportion, words and morals are redefined to legitimize lawlessness. Good is called evil and evil good! Such were the days in which Isaiah the prophet spoke about and here we are today with the very same spirit at work in our nation.

My dear friend our day is only going to get worse until we as a nation finally implode on ourselves. Decadence, lawlessness and moral relativism are now the dominant ideology of our land. We indeed as a nation have apostatized not just from Almighty God and His Word but from moral absolutes as well. The result of this apostasy is very evident today throughout our U.S. culture and society.

Do not let reprobate minds who are saturated with lawlessness deceive you into what is right and what is wrong. So subtle are their lies that many today are being deceived and allowing their emotions to do their “thinking for them.

It is easy to deduce that the Liberal mind - void of Almighty God and moral absolutes is the exceedingly far greater evil and threat to our culture and society than a gun.

My dear friends the inmates are now running the asylum, Washington and the media. May Almighty God’s Word give you the light you need and keep your rooted and grounded as we as a nation and a world head strait into the Day of the Lord.

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


Liberal Logic 101 - video


rohme said...

Hi Ignorant Fisherman,

Interesting article. I would love to knead out some of the fine points with you regarding government and religion.

The way I see it 'secular liberalism' is what gave you a second amendment right. Natural or legal rights in the form of social contracts is an Age of Enlightenment ideal. Without it you would probably be living under an absolute monarchy without natural or legal rights whatsoever.

Moral relativism, or moral subjectivism, is a meta-ethical belief that wrong or right, while objectively true, can only be true because of the subjective state of the individual making that claim to truth. Two people with different moral judgements, despite their objective claims to truth, will not conflict in this way. This idea of 'what's true for you is not true for me' is integral for a democracy to function.

Would you prefer to live in a totalitarian or theocratic state without egalitarian religious freedom (freedom of religion) allowing you to practice your religion without persecution from the religion of the state, or the lack thereof? If your answer is 'no,' then you are reflecting a type of relativistic attitude; one that allows freedom and tolerance to prosper amongst different peoples and cultures of a society, such as America's, whom MUST coexist.

Your frustration might really be against moral nihilism, which I see as the ethos of late capitalism. As apart of the 'Millennial generation,' I see this pervasive 'nihilist-consumer-zombie' behavior in my peers and it is sickening!

A properly Christian ethical stance regarding authority should follow Peter 2:13-21 "Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human authority, whether to the emperor, as supreme authority, or to governors who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and commend those that do right."

Christianity is apolitical. And modern conservatism and liberalism stem from the same secular liberal movement which began hundreds of years ago in Europe.

The Ignorant Fishermen said...

Part 1


Thanks for your well written reply. Much of what you said if not all of it is true if... Judeo/Christianity was just a "philosophy or ideology” none different than others.

Europe’s movements lead to the creation of America and the application of the Bible, biblical moral laws and absolutes and the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God (John Lock etc…) A great read is a book called “the 5000 Year Leap”

However… The bottom line is that Almighty God's Word the Bible communicates to man who lives in time the ETERNAL realities and absolutes of all ETERNITY. Its ETERNAL absolutes and natural moral absolutes transcend time, race, cultures, social orders and are for all people… thus all people are equal and “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, which among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”. All who follow the “rules of life” as it were are blessed. It is just a result of applying God’s order for time. America has been one of the only nations in the history of the world to apply these absolutes for time to work.


Without application to absolutes and establish laws (moral, physics, music, science, mathematical, spiritual and ETERNAL) in truth and reality there can be only chaos. When one adheres to these Divine absolutes there is much freedom and liberty not tyranny. Gravity, the temperature that water freezes and aerodynamics is totalitarian but when we obey it we can enjoy the benefits of gravity such is the case with all natural, moral and spiritual laws.

Politics and religion (man’s fallen spiritual philosophies) have always gone together… they always have since the beginning (Gen 11, Rom. 1:18-32). Throughout the 6000 year history of the world man, politics and religion has rejected REALITY and has substituted fallen world philosophies in place of Divine REALITY and has never come out good (Rom. 1:18-32). Even Israel God's chosen people rejected Almighty God's establish moral and righteous absolutes and reaped on themselves horrific devastation (Acts 7). When we violate moral laws there is a consequence (Rom. 1:18-32) and when we violate the ETERNAL laws of RIGHTEOUSNESS there is an ETERNAL consequence (Rom. 10:2-4, Rev. 20:11-15).

The REALITY is that Almighty God’s Son who is also Almighty God will come back to earth to crush all the nations and individuals who are violators of His Divine creational order (2 Thess. 2:8-12, Rev. 9:20-21, 16:11) and establish His 1000 year kingdom in Righteousness (Isa. 2:1-4, 11:1-10, Dan. 2:44-45, 7:13-14, Zech. 14:16-21, Rev. 19:11-21) and then establish Almighty God’s ETERNAL state (Rev. 21-22). That might sound totalitarian but to those who subject themselves to the ETERNAL Divine established laws of nature and of Nature’s Creator there will only be blessing harmony and peace (Isa. 11:1-10 not Rev.13, 16).

All that to say… that I and other believers never expect this world to receive Almighty God as its Lord and King let alone follow His Divine intuition and absolutes of His Creation and His ETERNAL Laws of RIGHTEOUSNESS (Rom. 7, 10:2-4). As a matter of fact they are at war with Him and in the end it will lead the grand conclusion of Armageddon (Rev. 16:13-16, Rev. 19:11-21).

The Ignorant Fishermen said...

Part 2

We are not seeking to establish a Christian world order but to let the world know that ALL will give an account to their Creator and that this world order (From Babel to 666) will not endure FOREVER.

Think it through my friend. Have you perfectly kept the 10 commandments of Almighty God (His PERFECT RIGHTEOUS and ABSOLUTES) with all your HEART, SOUL, AND MIND? If not and it is safe to say that you have not for ALL have transgressed (Rom. 3:23)… Then you are a violator of these moral and spiritual absolutes and will be held accountable in the end for your violation of them (Rom. 10:2-4, Rev. 20:11-15). That is quite sobering is it not? I personally have not kept these absolutes perfectly either and am a violator also with you but… have received Almighty God’s RIGHTEOUS solution for my fallen estate (John 1:12, 3:16-17, Acts 16:29-30, Rom 10:2-4). You see my dear friend, that is what it is all about.. We have to see out side the subjective strangle hold of this fallen world and see the objective ETERNAL position from Almighty God’s perspective. When we do then it will all make sense and our wisely worldly perception will then become foolish.(1 Cor. 1:18-31). To the world we are the fools and ignorant (aka Ignorant Fishermen) but to those who believe Almighty God and His Word we are wise.

Be sure to look for your self and see what Almighty God has for you. We have 1000’s of Bible studies and correspondences courses if you would like to search God’s Word out further. Also be sure and be objective and look up the verse we have given to you.


Unknown said...

Hard to believe some of the comments here. Completely missed your points. This is right on.

The Ignorant Fishermen said...


Thanks for your reply!

God speed!